Folks, this heah Front Porch ain't supposed to be about contentious topics, since that's what the BACK Porch is fer...but I'm a wonderin' if we can civilly discuss where democracy can take some root--civil enough for the Front Porch? Well...iffin' it get's too hot for the fans out heah we'll jes' move this topic round back.
But fer now....most of ya'll knows about the Danish cartoon flap, and they's no need heah to rehash that, but for the question of free speech and democracy...can a true democracy exist whar free speech is denied? Ain't part of democracy the exchange of ideas in the public square?
I was onct' a viewer in the British House of Parliament---hoo ee! what a free f'rall...Lawdy but they's a yellin' and barkin' at one t'other. In other words, they's really mixin' it up on free speech.
But no fisticuffs, cause of course, each one got his say. Now the host of this opportunity was a legal sort who made mention of democracy as a loose laboratory of ideas that was being sorted through and that it weren't always neat at at the end o' the day theys' a mess on the floor--so to speak. But that representative gubmint meant a bit of a mess, and thas' OK, since it meant more freedom rather than fiat.
Now about the Moors--that'd be the Muslims of today...the only so-called secular or "democratic" Moorish state is Turkey which is agitatin' to come into the European Union...and the Europeans mostly doan want this. This is on account of the method of rule in Moorish nations is fiat, not freedom. It ain't really bigotry, but a serious concern that the Turkish army has a coup 'bout every decade and that's only reason they's "democracy" and that Moorish Turks cain't really fit theyselves into European democratic practice--as made real plain by the Danish war of Cartoons.
Now this brings us slap up against Iraq, doan it? I mean, if Turkey ain't truly democratic, how's Iraq gonna be? I ain't sayin' we shouldna try to bring about a more democratic process in Iraq--fine idea, but can it take hold where the fudamental religious idea is mortally opposed to the ideas on which democracy is built? Ain't no "render unto Caesar what is Caeser's and unto God what is God's " in the Qur'an, ya knows.
An we got that demonstrated to us, wif Hamas, right? They democratically elected terrorists...so this seems to be a lesson for the West, doan it? I mean, heah is what Khaled Mash’al, the leader of Hamas, drunk wif the Islamist terrorist's victory in the Palestinian elections boasted:
"This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious....By Allah, you will be defeated.... Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. "
Ah, the "throne of the world." Ya' see, they's meaning this as both an Islamic doctrine and as a political threat.
And as their 14th-century historian and philosopher, Abdel Rahman ibn Khaldun wrote, “In the Muslim community, the jihad is a religious duty because of the universalism of the Islamic mission and the obligation [to convert] everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.”
Now, recall how ole' O'sama himself kept on referrin' to the Ottoman Empire after 9-11. How the Caliphate would have to be restored and Europe is by rights the possession of Islam. Now youse seein' why Some Europeans is real real anxious? They doan want Turkey in the EU and Aunty Belle is standin' right there wif em--
What about ya'll?
Posted by Aunty Belle at 4:43 AM