tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post4482002465834253487..comments2023-11-03T01:55:16.915-07:00Comments on Aunty Belle's Front Porch: Long WaitAunty Bellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-15298679731564935032011-01-15T23:50:37.594-08:002011-01-15T23:50:37.594-08:00Boxer-Babe!
If tellin' this story made Mary ...Boxer-Babe!<br /><br /> If tellin' this story made Mary come alive, then I is real happy I shared her story. Oh, how ya woulda loved her too--even iffin' her libation of choice was Kentucky Sour Mash. <br /><br />A little quirk about Mary: The confident self-satisfied, got-it-together types? she could an' did rag on them fer their foibles. Hypocrisy was called out. But a timid, broken, hurtin' soul? Ya never saw a more tender, nurturin' heart, than Mary's. She done a heap o' quiet good works for folks that could never return her kindness.<br /><br />Milk River Madman!<br /><br />Hey hey, happy to see ya on the Porch! Thanks fer good wishes fer Granny. AN thanky too for seein' how rare an valued good friendships are. Know youse sayin' it true--too often annulments is handed out like sweet tarts. Doan know yore own faith or affiliation, but can say that the Pope done told the US bishops to tighten up--doan marry folks unless they's been sat down an' helped to see what the deal is, an stop liberalizin' the annulment process since God ain't fooled none. It is gettin' better--the old 60s 70s era US church bureaucrats wuz more faithful to the US culture than to the bible. <br /><br />Karl!<br /><br />Thanky. I meant to honor her, not blab her inner secrets--but she is the sort that would tole ya all this herself, had she been bloggin' wif' us--she never spared herself none when it came to an honest appraisal. <br /><br />All y'all,<br /><br />Granny is still in the hospital, an will be at least another few days. She is makin' very slow progress, but that is better than we'd thought a week ago--an' she has had a kick outa hearin' that bloggers all over the map done wished her well. She an' I both is charmed by yore kindness.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-12584272072475666872011-01-15T23:30:50.220-08:002011-01-15T23:30:50.220-08:00Pam OKC,
yes, indeed. The poor human heart.
Eggy!...Pam OKC,<br />yes, indeed. The poor human heart.<br /><br />Eggy!<br /><br />She wuz special, an very oddly, given Aunty's corseted attitudes, we became very close. She was brave, stoic, uncomplaining. And I do miss her.<br /><br />Fishy!<br /><br />Well, now, in no way did Mary every describe Keith as a "predator", more as a quiet, good young man. He wuz 11 years older, but she never hinted anything like yore worry. But..yes, her girls had a real blessin' wif' Mary for a mama.<br /><br />Foamy!<br /><br />Oh, the two of ya would have been pals, I'se sure of it--ya remind me of her in some ways. Yep, the annulment process is confusing, often handled badly--but then, so is marriage. Marriage is serious bidness--another post, but the data and studies indicate marriages gone awry causes more harm than most folks realize at first.<br /><br />Thanky fer well wishin' towards Granny.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-25081144225512349992011-01-15T23:16:51.406-08:002011-01-15T23:16:51.406-08:00Troll-Man!
Well, now, thas' a tough set of qu...Troll-Man!<br /><br />Well, now, thas' a tough set of questions. <br /><br />On the annulment, I has to say I doan know--I doan know what the grounds were--she din't say. Were I to guess, I'd say she married too young to know what she was actually committing to--but that won't sit well wif' Aunty, who also married at 18 an who knew VERY WELL EXACTLY what I wuz committin' mahself to. Or, mebbe the grounds were that she never intended to commit to what marriage means--she was young, poor an' Keith looked like a lifeboat? So she mouthed the words, but did not intend to make that level of vow? <br /><br />I'se pure T guessin' now--I has no knowledge of what the grounds were. Mebbe he wuz an unbaptized person. Mebbe they warn't married in a church, but on a riverboat or somethin'--in short, a non-sacramental marriage. <br /><br />I could speculate that very little marriage preparation took place. It doan always happen, but for the most part, gettin' married in the Catholic Church requires at least three months of preparation--that is, the couples hear clearly what it is they are about to vow--an' I shure wish I could say that it means rare Catholic divorces, but<br />in the USA that is not true. <br /><br />The famous Barna report shows that the divorce rate for various faith groups is less that the national average of 40-50% (trending lower since the highest divorce rate in the 1980s) but still disturbingly high:<br /><br />Evangelical Christians --34%<br />Jewish-------------------30%<br />Baptists-----------------29%<br />Mainline Protestants-----25%<br />Mormons------------------24%<br />Catholics----------------21%<br />Lutherans----------------21%<br /><br />Biblical warrant for annulment? The teaching on marriage is Matt:9 where Jesus says what God has joined, let no man put asunder--that is, no divorce, <br /><br />The problem often comes from the modern/ revisionist translation of Matt:9:9 as "except for adultery" but the accurate translation of the Greek word "Porneia" is not adultery, but fornication. (Cf. Wycliffe, KJV, Gutenburg) Here Jesus is speaking of the cases where the "marriage" is not marriage but "fornication" because the pair are not legitimately bound. Some scholars think Jesus had a famous pair in mind when he said that:<br /><br />Herod Antipas an Herodias. (Matt 14: 3-12) When John the Baptist pointed out this sham marriage (she was married to Anipas' half brother, Philip) Herodias plotted to have John beheaded.<br /><br />IN short, those who "marry" with impediments, are not joined in God's eyes.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-75257357517932659292011-01-15T23:07:54.536-08:002011-01-15T23:07:54.536-08:00FC!
Hope yore own Mama is on the mend!
Sorry fer ...FC!<br /><br />Hope yore own Mama is on the mend!<br />Sorry fer the tug at yore heart--I am real real shure that Mary wuz yore kinda lady.<br /><br />Chick9!<br /><br />Why thanky--her daughters were 7, 10, and 12 when she died. Very tough. I do hear from them at Christmas--photos too. The eldest graduated from a northern university this summer.<br /><br />Moi!<br /><br />hahaha! I coulda guessed you'd be the one to key in on Uncle's KoolKat line. Promise ya' I ain't stretchin' that story none a'tall. <br /><br />As fer the red merc two-seater--no no no, the problem isn' the two seater--it's the color! RED?? I mean, isn't a Mercedes sports car <br />"bright" enough? HAve the car, jes' make mine mallard green--some discrete color. Moi? You'd have adored Mary.Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-57138911160337332302011-01-13T15:41:56.851-08:002011-01-13T15:41:56.851-08:00Good afternoon Aunty Belle,
You honor your friend...Good afternoon Aunty Belle,<br /><br />You honor your friend well.<br /><br />All the best to Granny.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233754448811631284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-67061696887621112982011-01-11T16:05:23.573-08:002011-01-11T16:05:23.573-08:00Aunty,
So sorry to hear about your Granny.
Godspee...Aunty,<br />So sorry to hear about your Granny.<br />Godspeed to you both. I'll certainly pray for a recovery.<br />Glad to read of the improvements.fishyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169980377922293950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-44619064991052008452011-01-11T03:56:34.444-08:002011-01-11T03:56:34.444-08:00Howdy all,
Granny is still in hospital, but may b...Howdy all,<br /><br />Granny is still in hospital, but may be moved out of CCU into a "step down" unit. This is elating news, as two nights ago, it seemed grim.<br /><br />I will leave this post up as I wanna answer yore comments. Pls ck back in a bit. Thanky so much!<br /><br />Meanwhile, there is a new post for Haiku Monday here<br /><br /><a href="http://ethercapacious.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Ether Capacious</a>Aunty Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13868780211706866610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-41059794453160241422011-01-10T12:41:08.904-08:002011-01-10T12:41:08.904-08:00Best wishes on a speedy recovery to Granny.
What ...Best wishes on a speedy recovery to Granny.<br /><br />What a beautiful story. I have little else to say. Just thinking of great friendships.<br /><br />As for the anullment process. Not to sound cynical but like a lot of things in life, if you have the money you can get anulled, no matter what the circumstances.Milk River Madmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03488717739676864113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-38884661035334796652011-01-10T11:59:38.209-08:002011-01-10T11:59:38.209-08:00ack! how did i not see your comment about your mo...ack! how did i not see your comment about your momma! i'm so sorry to hear this!darkfoamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14394546886035933252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-40375473644369622272011-01-09T17:21:19.041-08:002011-01-09T17:21:19.041-08:00Dang!
Give Granny a cracker hug for me.Dang!<br />Give Granny a cracker hug for me.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-55244706563641249602011-01-09T14:58:27.748-08:002011-01-09T14:58:27.748-08:00First sorry to hear you're spending the weeke...First sorry to hear you're spending the weekend in the hospital.<br /><br />We hear about the losses of family, but rarely a friendship and they are equally important to us and hurt just as much when we lose them. What a great desciption you painted of your friend and I love how you two found common ground to grow a frienship. <br /><br />And I'm sorry for you loss. However, telling this story made her VERY alive.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280822962202098606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-74691164019210560622011-01-09T11:08:15.042-08:002011-01-09T11:08:15.042-08:00What a sad story. It's hard to use a dear fri...What a sad story. It's hard to use a dear friend, especially when they are still so vigorous. and we don't stop missing them.<br /><br /> I have a friend whose fiancee had to go through an annulment for them to get married. despite your explanations in the previous post i still think the procedure is a bit puzzling .... especially since they ended up living together since the annulment process took a loooooooong time.... a few years in fact.darkfoamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14394546886035933252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-63634850339365801712011-01-09T07:50:56.657-08:002011-01-09T07:50:56.657-08:00Hey all y'all
Thanky fer yore comments.
Will...Hey all y'all<br /><br />Thanky fer yore comments.<br /><br />Will answer them each later, but<br /><br /><br /> this mornin' Ise wif' granny in <br />the hospital. <br /><br />Hold the fort.<br /><br />AuntyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-7758564822002471602011-01-08T19:27:43.924-08:002011-01-08T19:27:43.924-08:00Ahhhh Aunty, you were a fine friend to Mary. I kno...Ahhhh Aunty, you were a fine friend to Mary. I know she treasured you same as you treasure her. Opposites that become strong friends are bout the best they ever are. And hooray for you Aunty in recognizing the gift of joy can sometimes seem frivolous.<br /><br />I know it was a different story but I was hearing the I love little baby ducks song while reading of your great friendship with Mary. <br /><br />Sigh, it is so easy to get it wrong and such a blessing to get it right.<br /><br />Seems like the fellas what don't have a light of their own want to hold the glow of another. It was not Mary's fault Keith was a good man but no match for her. He surely knew that. And he , as her boss, started courting her as a predator of a teen in a terrible place. Did he expect her to stop growing as a person to shine on him? That ain't love and goodness.<br />That is selfish needs and use.<br /><br />I think it tragic Mary had a burden of guilt about him.<br /><br />I bet the girls turned out great.<br />Any child blessed to have a mother full of conscious and laughter? Huh, that's about as big as blessings come.<br /><br />One more thing Aunty, clean out your buggy barn and get you a little 2 seater convertible. It is a grand way to celebrate blessings.fishyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169980377922293950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-65717415992759129642011-01-08T18:39:18.934-08:002011-01-08T18:39:18.934-08:00Oh, my, Aunty. I finally got over here to read you...Oh, my, Aunty. I finally got over here to read your post and I am . . . without words, for your compassion, loss, and story-telling. Blessings on you for your wide-flung friendships, willingness to hold memories close after many a year, and ability to share a complicated story.Sharon Ruddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598263732896925616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-86542578109151971352011-01-08T13:21:07.608-08:002011-01-08T13:21:07.608-08:00What a story. A human story. Female human story....What a story. A human story. Female human story. Secrets of her heart; told with love by Aunty.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15357397551761295138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-11738827469669739022011-01-08T09:47:18.486-08:002011-01-08T09:47:18.486-08:00On what grounds did her divorcing Keith qualify as...On what grounds did her divorcing Keith qualify as an "annulment"?<br /><br />None of your examples match the situtation. <br /><br />What is the concept of "annulment" based on biblically?<br /><br />Did Keith have to concede that their marriage "never existed" in order for her to "work through" the "annulment process"?<br /><br /><br />If I were him, I wouldn't have signed off on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-86464842162472459592011-01-08T06:05:20.837-08:002011-01-08T06:05:20.837-08:00The only way I could recover from the heartbreak o...The only way I could recover from the heartbreak of your story was to get back to the image of 17-year-old Uncle teasing prissy 15-year-old Aunty on her porch. And marvel at how, today, that might be considered illegal in several states.<br /><br />I can identify with Mary in many ways. It seems to me, in spite of your aversion to two-seat Mercedes coups (<i>really?</i>), that you were a true blue friend to her. We should all be so lucky to have our own "Auntys." Now excuse me while I go blow my nose.moihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07824043795171732429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-13523467609337845302011-01-08T05:32:32.395-08:002011-01-08T05:32:32.395-08:00still thinking about your friend this morning. lov...still thinking about your friend this morning. love to you aunty<br /><br /><a href="http://sparringk9.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">This week's Haiku Monday host page is here. </a>sparringK9https://www.blogger.com/profile/08031137344229440004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-30348333359011386302011-01-07T17:16:20.432-08:002011-01-07T17:16:20.432-08:00oh my God aunty what a killer. I can feel you miss...oh my God aunty what a killer. I can feel you missing her over the DSL. mercy. She sounds great and you make me miss her too. Great story, great storytelling. kind of a lonesome rainy night in georgia now...in a good way. so sorry for mary. how old were the daughters when she died and do you hear from them now?chickoryhttp://chickory.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068833.post-18804514728217747062011-01-07T16:36:07.262-08:002011-01-07T16:36:07.262-08:00Jesus Aunty! I'm in a public place for crying ...Jesus Aunty! I'm in a public place for crying out loud!<br /><br />No more tear jerkin' posts like <br />this while I am in Barnes and Noble using the free WIFI!R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.com